Michael Jackson accusers Wade Robson and James Safechuck co-host 'trauma' podcast based on their experience with abuse after rebuilding lives away from spotlight

The two men suing Michael Jackson's estate after he allegedly molested them as children have built lives away from the spotlight as a life coach and a podcaster, DailyMail.com can reveal.

Wade Robson, now 41, and James Safechuck, 46, have long claimed that the late King of Pop sexually abused them when they were young children visiting his Neverland ranch in the 80s and 90s.

Both men say the alleged abuse – which continued for seven years in Robson's case and four in Safechuck's – left them mentally traumatized.

While the court case is ongoing and is likely to head to trial later this year, Safechuck and Robson have rebuilt their lives away from the showbiz milieu they once inhabited.

Now a father-of-two, Safechuck – who is seen exclusive DailyMail.com photos spending time with his family in his low-key LA neighborhood – is a podcaster who draws on his own experience of abuse to help others.

James Safechuck, now 46, (left) and Wade Robson, 41, have rebuilt lives away from the spotlight as a podcaster and a life coach DailyMail.com can reveal

The two men filed a new civil suit against two companies that their accused abuser Michael Jackson owned and controlled before his death in 2009

Both Robson and Safechuck now host a podcast called 'From Trauma to Triumph' in which they both  draws on their alleged abuse at Jackson's hands 

Meanwhile, Robson, a successful choreographer who once dated Britney Spears, has swapped glitzy music tours for rural peace in a quiet part of Maui.

Although he still teaches dance and regularly travels to colleges and schools on the US mainland for his education work, the Australian native devotes much of his time to a new role as a life coach.

Robson's rates start at $50 for one emailed question and answer session and he also offers a videocall option starting at $150-per-hour for those earning up to $50,000, rising to $250-an-hour for clients who earn $75,000 or more.

On his website, he says he draws on his experience of childhood sexual abuse in the sessions and reveals that the trauma resulted in him suffering two nervous breakdowns.

The webpage reads: 'Several years ago, Wade experienced two nervous breakdowns culminating in his leaving the entertainment business and disclosing for the first time the sexual abuse he experienced as a child; His healing journey had begun.'

It goes on: 'Wade has woven his personal odyssey as a survivor of child abuse into a profound narrative as a Life Mentor.

'Drawing from extensive healing and spiritual studies, Wade imparts not only guidance but a deeply personal understanding of transformation.

'His mentoring is a fusion of creativity and spiritual insight, offering individuals a path to self-discovery and healing that goes beyond conventional advice.

'Wade's unique approach is a testament to the power of resilience, authenticity, and the wisdom gained through a profound healing journey.'

Robson (left) claimed he was abused by the late singer starting when he was about eight, from 1990 to 1996, and Safechuck alleged the sex abuse took place between 1988 to 1992, starting when he was about 11 years old 

Safechuck is seen exclusive DailyMail.com photos spending time with his family in his low-key LA neighborhood in early April 

The podcast host is now a married father-of-two and was snapped leaving a little league baseball game with his wife and son in Sherman Oaks 

Safechuck is married to Laura Primack, 46, who is successful in her own right and currently holds the role of vice president of culture and creative services at Avatarlabs – a digital advertising agency

Safechuck also draws on his alleged abuse at Jackson's hands in his work and runs a podcast with Robson called 'From Trauma to Triumph'.

In it, the pair talk to abuse victims and trauma specialists with the aim of 'highlighting the many resources available in order to inspire the brave steps to starting, or continuing, the healing journey'.

Despite the trauma they say they endured as children, both men have gone on to enjoy happy marriages.

Safechuck is married to Laura Primack, 46, who is successful in her own right and currently holds the role of vice president of culture and creative services at Avatarlabs – a digital advertising agency that has worked on campaigns for Deadpool, Narcos and Marvel Studios among many others.

In a testimonial posted to her Linkedin page, a supportive Safechuck wrote: 'Laura sets the standard for excellence at AvatarLabs. She always gives her everything and is a natural leader.'

Marking their 14th wedding anniversary in an Instagram post in October 2022, the doting husband described his wife as 'a beautiful human being and partner'.

He went on: 'Tonight we went to dinner and had an amazing time and conversation together. Still, after all these years I'm captivated and enlightened by her emotional depth, caring and compassion for people. 

'I aspire to be more like you. You make me a better person. I love you.'

Robson, a successful choreographer who once dated Britney Spears, has swapped glitzy music tours for rural peace in a quiet part of Maui

Like Safechuck, Robson is also a devoted husband with a successful wife, Amanda Robson, 44 (pictured) who runs an upscale event design company named Feast Hawaii

Robson is pictured with Michael Jackson in an undated photo. The Australian native met Jackson when he was five years old. He went on to appear in three Jackson music videos 

Photos posted to his social media pages paint a picture of a happy family life, with the quartet enjoying regular lunches out, a tour of the Queen Mary cruise ship in Long Beach and a day out at Disneyland in Anaheim.

Like Safechuck, Robson is also a devoted husband with a successful wife: Amanda Robson, 44, runs an upscale event design company named Feast Hawaii.

The glamorous mom-of-one appears regularly on the company's social media pages – as does Robson.

One photo, to promote a collaboration called Msubi Magic with a local bakery, sees both smiling inside the shop with Amanda pretty in a print dress and chambray apron.

In another, the pair can be seen celebrating her 43rd birthday with their extended family – Robson getting into the Aloha spirit in a brightly colored Hawaiian shirt.

Amanda has also been supportive of Robson's own battle with his alleged past abuse and has lent her name to a charity fund aimed at tackling childhood sexual abuse.

The fund, named the Robson Child Abuse Healing and Prevention Fund, was begun with a $10,000 donation from the couple and is administered through the Hawaii Community Foundation.

Both were also active in raising money to support the Lahaina wildfire victims following the devastating blaze last August that killed at least 101 victims.

Michael Jackson's lawyers are trying to shut down an attempt by two men who claim he sexually abused them to access nude photos of the pop icon. He is pictured in a suggestive publicity photo taken while filming the video for his 1995 song You Are Not Alone 

Safechuck appeared in the two-part HBO documentary 'Leaving Neverland' by filmmaker Dan Reed. In the documentary, Safechuck said he was ten when he and his family were invited into  the singer's fairy-tale existence as his career reached its peak

In the immediate aftermath, Robson took to social media to recommend vedic meditation as a means of healing the trauma and followed that with a $20-per-head online dance class called Groove For Maui with all proceeds donated to the Maui Strong Fund.

Despite their happy new lives, the specter of Jackson remains a presence for both men thanks to the ongoing court fight with the singer's companies MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures.

Robson and Safechuck say MJJ Productions staff are complicit in the abuse they suffered because they knew Jackson was grooming and abusing children and helped him cover it up.

Although their initial cases, filed in 2013 and 2014 respectively, were tossed in April 2021, last summer an appeals court panel overturned that decision and said they could proceed to trial.

During a July 26 hearing in the California Court of Appeal, one of their attorneys Holly Boyer said: 'The defendants ignore the fact that Jackson's house was staffed with employees who enacted policies and procedures to isolate Jackson and these children knowing that Jackson had sexually abused minors before and was sexually abusing these plaintiffs.

She added: 'These are children. The idea that there is no responsibility to do anything ignores the context.

'Their dependence and vulnerability are implicit in their age. In a case of an affirmative duty to protect children from sexual abuse, we do require that the employees of the entity take those steps.

Robson, now a choreographer and director, filed his case in 2013, and Safechuck, a writer, actor and director, filed in 2014 – both for negligence, breach of duty and intentional infliction of emotional distress

The men allege that horrific sexual abuse took place at Jackson's Neverland ranch

'At the heart of what we are talking about is the sexual abuse of children, which is something we need to protect against.'

Both men are now battling to have the trial on the matter brought forward to this year and ahead of a flattering new biopic in which Jackson will be played by his nephew Jaafar, 27.

In early April, their lawyer John Carpenter filed to subpoena records from the LA District Attorney, LAPD, the Santa Barbara Sheriff, and Santa Barbara PD made during a 1993 criminal investigation into Jackson's alleged molestation of children, including nude photos taken of the singer by the police.

Carpenter told TMZ: 'The Los Angeles Police Department and Santa Barbara Police Department gave Michael Jackson and their legal team including Thomas Mesereau all of the incriminating evidence showing that Michael Jackson was sexually abusing children and that his corporations knew about it.'

He added: 'I understand why the Michael Jackson defense team doesn't want us to have it.'

Lawyers for MJJ Productions are challenging the subpoenas, with a hearing for their motion to quash the subpoenas scheduled for June 6.

A trial readiness hearing is also scheduled for June 5.