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Disaster for Biden as more key Democrats demand he drop out AFTER his 'big boy' press conference and Obama and Nancy Pelosi concede it's 'hard' for him to beat Trump in crisis talks

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and former President Barack Obama held emergency talks on what to do about Joe Biden at the top of the Democratic ticket - and did not come to a consensus. 

Neither is sure what to do - but they agree it has become much harder for Democrats to win in November since Biden's disastrous debate performance, according to CNN

Democrats are 'begging' either Obama or Pelosi to help quell the infighting. The pair of political powerhouses have Biden's ear, more than Senate Democrat Leader Chuck Schumer or House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries. 

Three more House Democrats have come out and called on Biden to drop out of the running since his post-NATO news conference Thursday night - including top Intelligence Committee Democrat Jim Himes, Conn. That brings the total number of House Democrats up to 17. 

Two senators have also called on Biden to drop out and still more have expressed concern about how he'll weigh down the ballot.

President Barack Obama
Speaker Nancy Pelosi

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and former President Barack Obama held emergency talks on what to do about Joe Biden at the top of the Democratic ticket - and did not come to a consensus

Biden had at one point called Vice President Kamala Harris 'Vice President Trump' and just before the news conference he called Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky 'President Putin.'  

While some Democrats publicly praised Biden's debate performance - and the Biden team took a victory lap - others worry that they've hit a point where Biden's performance was decent enough to convince him he doesn't need to drop out but not good enough to quell concerns about his cognitive decline.  

Pelosi, for her part, has insisted the door is open for Biden to drop out of the running - even as Biden insists he'll do no such thing. Obama has remained quiet in recent days. 

The former speaker urged Democrats to hold off on publicly blasting the president until after the NATO news conference.  

Reports showed that Obama knew about George Clooney's New York Times op-ed calling on Biden to drop out and had spoken with the actor about it. 

'What's going on behind the scenes is the Biden campaign and many Democratic officials do believe that Barack Obama is quietly working behind the scenes to orchestrate this,' MSNBC's Joe Scarborough surmised. 

Asked if Biden has her support on MSNBC's Morning Joe, the former speaker said on Wednesday: 'It's up to the president to decide if he's going to run. We're all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running out.'

Reminded that Biden has made up his mind, Pelosi said: 'I want him to do whatever he decides to do.' 

'Whatever he decides, we go with.' 

Behind closed doors, she's told people that Biden can't win and should step aside, according to Politico. 

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